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Old 25-04-2008, 04:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Belfort View Post
No disrespect to any of the instructors or the course content, but you could find yourself in court for assault and unlawful detention, not to mention human rights act offences in criminal and/or civil court.

Also, as it has happened in the past, how you are going to defend yourself in court when someone has had a panic attack for being handcuffed and ended up in hospital?!

I'd rather prefer useing my mouth to keep them out than to end up in court wasting my time and explaining myself because of an idiot.

No, my friend, i don't live on the Land of giants as you mentioned.. it does take more than 2 most of times to restrain someone safely. Police sometimes struggle to perform it, as I witnessed so many times.
Yes most of us would rather use our brain (not mouth, that sounds far to aggresive) to defuse situations, but anyone who is regularly involved in potentially volitile situations will tell you sometimes it is not going to be defused! It can always get physical! As for going t ocourt for assault and illegal detention.. Have you not actualy read some of the earlier comments? Many of them clearly state they have been to court sucessfully!!! The person cuffed has ended up with the custodial sentence.

Yes, you may get someone attempt a counter claim, or some cluess bobby not understanding the law and attempting to get you convicted, but as long as your training is in date (Andy Walkers APR for example.. Good training conducted by an EXCELLENT instructor) and you insurance is in order and you acted according to your instruction you will be fine...

Should a police officer not cuff for fear of possible comeback? Of course not, but these undesirables try to counter the police officer as well.. My cousin, a DCI (see we can all throw family into the argument) with GMP has over his 20 year career been accused of and investigated for many incidents, all due to some villian he has arrested tryin to 'muddy the water'... But as the always cuffed or restrained or 'subdued' in line with 'current guidelines' he has always walked away...

As for taking 2 people to restrain someone... No not always... I have regulary restrained and cuffed individuals alone. It requires training and practice.. And practise is where the police fall down... They dont re-train anywhere near enough to make the techniques 'hard wired' which is why when it all goes physical on the street many officers forget the training and it becomes a bundle.. I have been approached by my local Constabulary and asked to provide quotes for on-goin training for street level officers as the forces seniors have finally noticed the short falls
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