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Close Protection Forum Thread, course query in Close Protection World Area; agreed andy, Med skills are definately high on the necessity list, but as Cpt 291 states they must be refreshed ...

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Old 13-05-2008, 12:33 PM
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agreed andy, Med skills are definately high on the necessity list, but as Cpt 291 states they must be refreshed and updated regularly. All team members must have a certain level of training especially for HE gigs.
Risk assessment and avoidance are also necessary skills, it is the full package that counts not just one part of it. Ronin are undoubtedly the finest around for their meds, but as overall packages they are still up there, but there are other alternatives which dont cost the moon and stars that are every bit as good.
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Andy, I have to agree with what has been said by CPT291 concerning medical cover.
If and I State if we are talking about the UK then I would rather employ a fully trained paramedic on the team who has all the drugs and equipment that would be needed to keep someone alive until help arrives.
There is also a trained emergency doctor on the Circuit who also has his CP license so he would be a better choice for some teams.
How often are you keeping up with your training putting in drips , CPR , de-fib, airway management.
As to where else can you do this type of training, well the answer is the UK. When I was diving for a living I did a 2 week course at The Wolfson Institute of Occupational Health, Dundee university with a doctor called Philip James. We spent every night between Dundee Royal and Dundee Ninewells. At the Royal we were allowed to suture people with the supervision of a doctor to start with and then just with a nurse once we were confident enough.
We put drips into each other in the classroom, helped out in resus at Ninewells and also attended operations , autopsies where we carried out Chest drainage, Traci anyway put tubes in through the throat and also learning veinal cut downs, this gave us the grand title of Diving EMT to be used inside chambers and it was put on us when abroad to be the ships medic.
My training was used when my late wife had cancer and she needed drugs at the end, I was able to put drips in and give her the drugs that were required. This was all approved by the doctors and nurses that had been treating her.
I know people that used the skills on a number of occasions to save peoples lives but we had to go back for a refresher every 3 years.
These courses are still going on, one is carried out in Plymouth by Interdive Services.
When discussing this matter before and there have been quite a few discussions on this matter any little of what you have learnt could save the life of a college or client, it is just having the bottle to get stuck in and try.
HE is a totally different thing and I am not getting involved in that argument as I am not employed over there and have no intention of going there.
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Iv just finished my course with Ronin Concepts UK and i would recomend that course to anyone, 3 weeks in Hereford then a week in Prague doing the Hostile environment part.

I was thinking about doing the CTG course but was told o have a think about it.

While i was away on my course in Hereford, Ronin Uk had a phone call of a Ex Brit squadie saying that Ronin SA were not that great either he paid 5 grand to sit on his arse most of the time.

At the end of the day mate anyone you speak to will tell you that their course would be the best one to go on.... Its up to you fella

RONIN CONCEPTS UK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....... Ha Ha

Good Luck mate
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Lets not start slagging each other off over these things as we all have opinions and should conduct ourselves likewise.
We do not know what each others backgrounds are and should respect that fact, we all know something that can add to each others knowledge.
Please do not let this site fall into an argument platform, have your views read others.
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Excellent post sunshine reference the courses in the UK. Thanks for that.
Do you have any prices available and course duration? I know a few guys that might be interested in that. PM me if you dont want to post in the open!
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Hello Sunshine, interesting about Dundee - I didn't know that. I'm keeping the skills and drills up here in Cape Town in the weekends mate- an eye opener, an everlasting stream of patients and invaluable experience. The amount of gunshots and stabbings here are mind boggling! These people chop and shoot each other up for fun!

Tell me. Is it still possible to train with the UK ambulance services at no cost..?

Anyway lads, off to water my "far more populated and geneically advanced plant" - which was probably meant to spell "genetically".

Out.
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thanks for posts guys
as for MAX security in Israel I don't think they sia approved but I'm not sure.

anyone knows what does it mean?:
LG Cert in Close Protection
BNU Cert in Protective Security
30 Credits towards a Foundation Degree in Protective Security
LG Cert in Close Protection Tactical Firearms (Dual Weapon)
LG Cert in Close Quarter Combat

That whats Longmoor Group offers.What is LG Cert, BNU Cert?
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Let me guess LG Cert stands for Longmoor Group Certificate?
Btw where did you find this all info I thought I read all on their webpage
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Let me guess LG Cert stands for Longmoor Group Certificate?
Btw where did you find this all info I thought I read all on their webpage

They sent me email with some info when I asked them about courses mate..
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"as for MAX security in Israel I don't think they sia approved but I'm not sure."



No m8, they not approved by SIA.

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