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Old 05-01-2008, 08:26 PM   #21 (permalink)
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jcd, I have to agree with you. The questions did come up a few months ago here and my response was that it was unethical and possibly illegal to post them. There is an exam for a reason and to give answers to an exam negates it's purpose. After all if you cheat, ultimately you are only cheating yourself and diluting the quality of a standard.

Setting mock exams while on a course I concider OK if it is done in such a way as to not be too close to the real thing and as CO19 said, a good trainer will impart that knowledge to you while training, anything else can be learnt through good research. After all especially if you want to branch out into surveillance, your research skills should be good enough anyway. If the licencing becomes an "everyone is a winner" then ultimately it is the industry as a whole that loses.
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Old 05-01-2008, 08:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Passing the exam means you can remember the written word not much else. Of course you have to pass the whole practical thing as well but its not rocket science is it.
Its the same as a lot of other professions, army, fire, police, ambulance and such likes, the learning starts on the ground, unfortunatly there are a number of new CPOs who think they know it all when in fact they know F all. I dont want to come down hard on any of you new people on the block but please listen, watch and learn from your other team members and your TL, if they are worth their salt you will learn a lot
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Old 05-01-2008, 08:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Just regarding ex military, 2 students who were the top students on their courses last year, were neither ex-military or ex-police. One was female, and the other a male. Both courses were around 15 people strong and had a large ex/serving military presence.

To give you an honest appraisal from feedback from ex students 40% have gone into the CP business and are doing ok, 20% are scapping through a living and the other 40% are not in the business at all after finding it too difficult to brake into the market.

I personally have found work for at last count 41 ex students, this goes from 1 days work through to full time contracts. They also ring me for advice or to offer me work. Its a 2 way street.
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Excellent advice CPO445 (Nearly typed C3PO ) and is good advice in general, not just in this industry. I certainly look forward to learning from experienced people just as I have done in many other walks of life. There is always someone better and smarter than you, remembering that should keep your feet on the ground.
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My thoughts on passing a CP course and obtaining the sia licence does allow you to call yourself a CPO however your experience on the job, previous life experiences, personal standards, honesty, integrity, ability to problem solve, self assessment/improvement and the list goes on will determine your level of expertise. But all are CPO's

99% of the time CP is a team effort so everyone on that team has an important contribution to make wheter you're a novice or the author of so called "Bible".
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Old 06-01-2008, 12:14 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Unless you are one on one which is prevelent in the UK, which i am at the moment.
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Old 06-01-2008, 12:19 PM   #27 (permalink)
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One on One do you or others call that IBG - Individual Bodyguard as we did when with CPU?

Another abbreviation to add to the list

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Old 06-01-2008, 12:23 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I could stretch it to Ppo but it would be stretching it with all the down time, there is Rst also.
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Old 06-01-2008, 12:30 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I wonder how far we can drift from the original question/statement? Is there a limit or is there CP forum Etiquette that i'm not aware of?

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Old 06-01-2008, 12:32 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I think we have done the original statement to death mate
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