Sas

RocketDodger

But surely, in that case, telling people you weren't in the SAS only serves to indicates that you WERE !!

Got this cracked!, keep the drinks coming, I remember abseiling through that bloody window........

AgeingC.P

a5955. Didnt that turn out to be 23 scs (special chunky service) covert stores stacking

Roadhog

No, he was the bloke with the broom and bondage kit at Deepcut

kenpsd

I was in the 'Plastic SAS' once, does that count??? Probably a blast from the past for some of you, if you know what it was you will know.....if you don't.....you won't!!! BTW we didn't have a boat house!

Rich H

Personally, I can't really see the big aura. The regiments ‘BG Course’ predominantly comprises of anti-ambush counter attack and high risk operational procedures. Etiquette and protocol are not on the course syllabus and the course is based more around ‘training the trainers’, enabling training teams to deploy and train other countries in anti-ambush drills as opposed to a ‘full-on’ proper CP Course. It is without doubt that members of the SAS are amongst the best soldiers in the world. This is due in part to the selection and training process of those members and also the UKSF adopted policy of operating procedures. However, Close Protection involves personal attributes that arguably work directly in conflict with those attributes of SF soldiers. Since the famous Iranian Embassy siege, ‘Operation Nimrod’, in 1980 the regiment has been at the forefront of related media articles. The excellent publicity provided by unprecedented live TV coverage of the event ensured the future of the SAS regiment was guaranteed as it had previously been under threat of disbandment. As a result of this publicity, the SAS continually attracts a disproportionate amount of media coverage to their actual individual skill sets including that of CP and it is widely assumed, as a result, that all members are experts in all related subject matter. Contrary to this misplaced perception, this is indeed not the case. Stating this, is in no way attempting to debase their reputation but is underlining important principles of reality, knowledge and values in Close Protection which I have experienced first-hand, both operationally, and in training, on another UKSF course. Grief, the guys even needed extra tuition on firing a Sig.

Most of the blokes I have worked with are full of matcho ego BS. When it comes down to the drills they fail dismally. I would never have ex-regt on my team. On the flip side of this the ex-SBS I have worked with have always been a step above. Now that is a strange comment from someone who is also ex-para reg!


Rich H

shakespeare

Rich,

Regarding training:

Having worked with one of the balcony swingers a while ago I actually thought him to be a top bloke, mind you, he used to teach Hostile CP drills. The person who I felt had the most to brag about (justifiably so) didn't mention it once and gladly helped those who needed a kick in the ass LOL. Another guy (who many of you will know) was a top operator and his drills were second to none (used to teach the Phoenix Small Arms CP course in Spain) and was highly respected by all of us.....(in the good days before Phoenix was bought by Armour Group and they started to churn out 80 lads instead of 10-14 a month!).

Operational:

On the operational side, I agree with some of your points, ego seems to get the better of a few lads and spoils the reputation of those who transfered to CP and PSD. (I will say though, a few are outstanding CP operators and pass on their knowledge and tit-bits willingly, esp. in Hostile sh*tholes. Of course, there are bad apples in every cart, but I've probably been fortunate to have worked alongside the humble good 'uns.)

Ex-para reg singing the praises of SBS?? Shame on you.....shame on you.....

recon

hi rich h rember f pye

annie

Isn't it generally the case that the most unasuming of men (and women), the ones who don't tell their tales down the local in the hope of a few free pints, are generally the ones who really have done the things the fakes all talk about so freely?

Just know from experience that the people you least expect, are the ones who have done the most, and often suprise you the most.

recon

spot on girl and can some 1 please why was there a boat house there?

blondie07

Oh this was sooooo true! Parental retired to rural Spain and told a tale of this 'lad' boasting about being SAS and trying to use it to intimidate. Having known a number of true lads the one thing I know is that they don't boast.. Grin. So, on a visit one time I propped myself up against the bar with said lad and let him talk.... after only a few sentences he dropped a few clangers, finally admitted to being REME... oh Royal Electrical Mechanical Engineers says I... what trade....? Ashen faced chap... admits to being a VM.... ok, so you were a mechanic says I... A or B...? At this point said 'SAS' knew he'd been seriously blown. I am not knocking the lads of the REME, and perhaps this lad did serve in the LAD at Hereford.. but Nah.. I doubt it, not from the way he clammed up after that and wanted to become my new best friend.

Yet i'd not said I word about what I did, just reminded this lad that the Army is a big 'gang' that has been going a long time and if you are going to boast about being somewhere or being something then you have to be prepared to come across someone who was there or who did do... etc.

There was however another chap in the peripheries who caught my attention. Private, quiet, but with presence. I don;t know if he was Regiment but he certainly reminded me of some chaps I know who were...