Grayjay

Hi,

We're looking at issuing shoulder holsters to our drivers however the bosses have dictated that they must hold the weapon vertically (to avoid the muzzle covering the principal!).

Thus far we've been unable to turn up a manufacturer who makes a shoulder holster with vertical mount for Glock 22 with tac light fitted.

Police dept so obviously cost is a factor (no hand stitched leather!) and it must be suitable for wear with business attire. There also need to be some form of real weapon retention i.e. more than just friction.

Does anybody know of a holster fitting this spec?

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

Edelweiss Tactical

Shoulder holster's sum up visions of men with dashing long hair, Mexican moustaches, shades your dad used to wear and expertly sliding in and out of sporty car windows without getting any dirt on the all leather polyester interior ...... oh and not spilling any coffee in the process.

SH Carry .... not the most tactically sound carry method (IOHO), have you considered IWB appendix carry? Unless your seriously overweight, this carry method fits the best for concealability and ease of deployment when you need to give it the rooty toot.


Take a look at CompTac, speak with Randy about your requirement, they may be able to offer you a solution.

All the best ...

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Roadhog

Grayjay, obviously I'm not sure of your tactical situation, in terms of threat levels etc. But in my experience, even for drivers who will primarily be seated a shoulder holster is, while concealable and comfortable, not the most effective carry, especially not vertically which neccessitates an upwards draw, before swinging into firing position. If you are prepared in advance and are the one initiating offensive action then the shoulder holster has it's role, but in terms of CP work where you will most commonly be reacting a waist level holster is in my opinion better. I would suggest that instead of shoulder holsters the drivers could be issued hip holsters and a weapon retention system- or clip on holster- be fitted into the door pocket to mount the drivers sidearm when in transit. Or go for the old technique of tucking the gun under the thigh on the seat when in transit.

mts

Have them carry standard rear hip/waist carry. Now i know the vast majority of you reading this are already thinking "but it's hard to get to whilst driving etc. - you're 100% correct, but as stated in the original thread, this is for drivers. Drivers need to focus on driving unless they're doubling as CPO's in which case their main focus when behind the wheel should still be driving.

Depending on where you are working, and i assume it's in the UK (as opposed to the pit), many many more deaths and injuries are caused by traffic accidents than assassinations or even random violent crime.

Vehicle carry for drivers is a difficult obstacle to overcome. Where the situation allows, i like to use thigh rigs which is obviously not an option in this case.

My advice is to stick with the waist (as in just behind the pants seam/hip) carry or in an executive bag with built in holster and quick draw mechanism.

Good luck and stay safe!

m

tapmaster

Shoulder holsters in theory are designed only for carry and not safety, security, practicality or anything else.

I would suggest a quality belt loop holster for the waist (there are many brands just do your research). Shoulder holsters have shown to be not practical in operations settings.

Just my opinion

Grayjay

Edelweiss -

That's the image we're going for, roll on Mo'vember! ; )

Thanks for your reply and advice.


Roadhog -

We work predominatly with low to medium threats and our CPO's wear covert holsters on the hip.

We've been given authority to trail shoulder holsters for the drivers to see if there's any advantage over the hip holster in terms of weapon access when seated / seat belted etc.

The points you make are all vadid and that may well be our final conclusion after trial. However, when working within department bureaucracy, getting approval to trail a piece of kit is half the battle and at the end of the day even if we don't use it in it's intended role, it will still be another tool we have available in the box.

Thanks for your advice.

Grayjay

MTS and Tapmeister -

Thanks for your replies, all valid points.

jcrymer

Have a look at Price Western Leather, Price Western Leather, PWL - Belts, Ammo Pouches, Police Equipment, Duty Wear & Leather Holsters. They have what you are looking for. Very good quality products at good prices, they supply to the U.K. police and military. They also have a holster designed for drivers or others siting in a vehicle, item number 327 which is a covert cross draw.

Grayjay

Jcrymer -

Looks like some nice kit, they don't show what we need in the brochure but I've emailed them direct to see if they can help.

Thanks for the advice.

jcrymer

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