cp training advise

bushey

hi guys ive been trying to do a lot of research but there is so much to read and see. im looking for a good CP course which is highly reccomended in the uk or europe. with first aid
so far i have narrowed it down to CR, Ronin uk, longmoor, what about Phoenix do they still run courses and do armor group still select from them.

cheers

stek67

did my training with Ronin UK but make sure you look at the requirements for a position that the main playing CP companies stipulate. I have no idea why a soldier has to have an operational tour under their belt before being considered for a CP team role in Iraq or Afghan or why 4 years service means a no when 5 is a yes...but if the recruitment secretary is filtering the CVs, it matters not a jot what other relevant skills or experience or training you possess...if you do not have the medal...you will not pass go so do not spend your money if you think a hostile environment position will follow your completion of a course. It will not and any company that tells you it will (barring CRG last time I looked..?)...is lying to you.

Even if a soldier had been unfortunate to be under direct contact requiring effective return fire for the majority of a 6 month tour...as well as being extremely unlikely, more importantly, bears virtually no relation to the role of a CP team or their likely reactions in the event of a contact.

I am sure these companies like Aegis and Armorgroup have let many a good team member slip through their fingers.

covert munkey

Bushey have a read of this mate. The moderator produced this for new lads just like yourself who need some advice.

A Beginners Guide to becoming a CPO

Welcome to Close Protection Forum and here you will find a wealth of information regarding the industry and tips on how to improve and succeed in what is a highly competitive and diverse industry. To any that are old hands most of this will already be known to you. For people just starting out or investigating the possibility of working in close protection, here is a guide of what to expect as you navigate your way from course selection to finding work. The site forums also have many articles written by experienced people in both CPO work and training. Take time to look around and don’t be afraid to ask questions as we are always learning, even the most experienced of us. It is part of the challenge of this type of work.

UndeRstanding the work

The fiRst steps toward a career as a CPO is to truly understand the work that it entails. Many people have misconceptions about the work from thoughts of James Bond to Kevin Costner’s The Bodyguard. In reality the day to day aspects of the role are far removed from those romanticised ideals and also there is a large responsibility to the work unlike its Hollywood counterparts who rarely seem to be accountable for their actions.

Before anything else the first question you should ask yourself is why do you want to do this type of work and does it fit in with your character. A strong desire to help another, even if it means you put yourself in danger is a prerequisite and patience as not all principals will share your ideas of what is safe and sane or are willing to pay the costs of what would be truly needed to make a situation safe.

Unlike the stereotype that most people believe, an aggressive personality is not a desired attribute; after all you are supposed to be avoiding conflict when you can. Also you will probably be considered a “necessary evil” in the eyes of the client / principal after all even if it is a real threat or their own paranoia, their life is already intruded upon and you are just another reminder of that intrusion, so sometimes it can be a thankless task. You are there solely to facilitate a normal a life as possible given the circumstances and to take care of their safety and wellbeing. If a situation happens and you ultimately save their life it is quite possible that instead of being thanked you will be looked at as having failed in your job to protect and avoid a situation which in some respects it true. Even in the normal world saving a life can be met with little gratitude, sometimes even indignation from the rescued as I have experienced from rescuing people that have nearly drowned at sea through their own stupidity. So you can see the desire to help another is a very important attribute to see you through those situations.

Another myth that is often heard is the phenomenal pay that you will receive and a glamorous life while mixing with the rich and famous at parties. While it is true you will be attending some lavish parties with your principal, what they don’t tell you is that mostly you will be standing outside waiting for the principal and watching everyone else enjoy themselves, the highlight of the evening being relieved of your post so you can have a break and a smoke with the CP driver (probably the most popular team member and the dullest assignment at functions!). This is another reason why the ability to work well as a team is important, as you will be spending a great deal of time with them. Still you will have to work up to this role as most likely you will be assigned to a RST (Residential Security Team) looking after the security of a home of the principal for £100 per day, a day being 10-12 hours.

Finding work is another question that is frequently asked and for some presents the major hurdle in becoming established in this career. You will be working as self employed and face considerable competition from your peers. Jobs are rarely advertised, there is little need because many people will be fielding CV’s to many companies for work. Some contracts can be as short as a day, most being a few days to a few weeks. If you are lucky you may get a longer contract but still may face unpaid stand down periods where the principal may not need you while travelling abroad as he has another CP team in another country.

The majority of work is through networking, a mysterious method to some and often hard to quantify. The fact that you have come to Close Protection World is in fact the fiRst step in networking, when you do get your first assignment further networking can be done with your team as each may have other work lined up and if you work well with them, they may indeed give you a call. Don’t be tempted to “elaborate” on your past or experience to gain work. You will be found out sooner than you think and you will find it almost impossible to gain further work in that case as the industry is very small and well connected. Everyone has to start somewhere and most people will help a new person to the job if they are honest about their skill base.


Choosing A Course Type – Where Do I Want To Work

Now the basics of the work have been covered, let’s look at choosing a course. There are two main aspects to consider fiRst, high risk or low risk work. In either case you will need an sia licence so chose an accredited course that suits your preferred location to work. There is little point in having a firearms course if you are working in the UK as you are not allowed to carry weapons, so that is something to bare in mind.

High Risk (Hostile Environment – HE)

These are areas like Iraq, Afghanistan, some eastern European and south American countries to name but a few. Normally without any previous military experience you will not be able to work these contracts and for good reason. The skills required can not be taught in a 2-4 week course, even with a basic firearms course included. There are exceptions to this rule as some civilians do show great skill during a course, some even excelling their ex military course mates but this is by no means usual. Another aspect is the people that are in charge of hiring are often ex military and feel more at ease with knowing what training and standard the potential employee has reached. Often the minimum is 6-8 years service with at least one or two tours in places like Iraq. Some non UK companies may employ someone without that experience if they show a good degree of skill but to gain work from them would require you to be known to them either by networking or recommendation.

Low Risk (Executive Protection - EP)

Although mainly low risk, there can be some contracts that are in the medium to high risk category depending where the principal may need to travel for business and if he wants to take his team to that destination. More so with EP is the need to undeRstand protocol which is essentially good manners and the ability to blend in with the people around you as it often is more covert by nature than your high risk counterpart. If you are doing your job well, people will hardly realise you are there and will assume you are part of the delegation.

Selecting A Course

This can be tricky at fiRst as every training provider will naturally say they are the best in their field, some have great training locations and glossy brochures, some offering guaranteed work after the course. Don’t be fooled by the promise of work, although there are some providers that will get you the first few jobs there is no guarantee and if a training provider tells you he can guarantee work with high pay then it may be wise to question their intentions. There is a list of accredited training companies available on the sia website and you should select from these as at least you can be sure it will be accepted for an SIA licence which you will need to be able to work. Although these are accredited, it does not mean that they have the same training standards and will vary considerably, even within the same training company over time.

A course is only as good as its trainers and they do move around between training companies. Ask people who have just completed a course to find how well their course went. Probably by private message on this site is best as no one really wants people to know they have just trained with a company that did not do their job well.

Find out if there is a good content of practical exercises as the theory is actually not too difficult and the exam is relatively straight forward. You will learn far more from the practical assignments than any bookwork. Also look at what area of CP work you think would interest you most. Some prefer Surveillance work and it would be wise to select a training company that also specialises in that area just as if you intend on working high risk then a company that specialises in that would be best. The costs of courses vary as does the duration. A simple rule is that a short cheap course will probably be a false economy as you really only want to do this once as it is a considerable investment in your future and to gain a chance of recouping that cost through paid employment in the industry can be put at risk through cutting corners in training. The old adage of “you get what you pay for” is quite often true. Talk with the short listed training companies to get a feel of what they are about; it will tell you far more than any marketing brochure will. Pay particular attention to what is not said or is glossed over as it is there that you will find what is being hidden.

Remember you also need a HSE first aid course, some training companies provide this as part of the course or you can do this separately. If it is done with the course it may be a better option as they tend to teach you in addition to the basics, some relevant injuries like gunshot wounds which a college course will not cover.


Preparation prior to a course

Personally I find this an important aspect. I was quite surprised when I was involved in running a course the amount of people that did no prior reading before joining a course. Some even had fanciful notions about the work which is why I have outlined some of the work above. A good training company will give you some pre reading before attending but you can also get books on the subject as well as research either via the Internet or from people that you may have connected with that work in the industry. You are lucky in this respect as if you are reading this then you have come to a site that has a wealth of information which was not around when I fiRst started to research into the industry with people that are willing to help each other with their experiences.

The theory itself is based on logical systems and common sense. It is possible to learn what you need for the exam prior to the course with the right material. I think this is the best piece of advice I could give as it allows you to concentrate on the practical aspects of the course and really enjoy it without the worry of being bogged down with theory. Another factor is that peoples long term memory is normally more efficient than their short term memory, so learning theory a while before will actually increase your ability to get excellent marks in the exam. Also spend a bit of time on your fitness prior to attending as it will help

Apply for your sia Close Protection Front line Application form before you start the course, it should be waiting for you when you return from the course. This can be obtained on-line at the SIA website.

The Course

This is where the fun starts! It is natural to be apprehensive on joining but keeping a positive attitude will keep you in good stead. You most likely will be given a list of things you should bring to the course, for example a suit, shirts gym gear etc. Plan ahead and pack what you will need as you don’t want to be concerned with laundry chores unnecessarily. Some of the course will be quite physical so you will need to accommodate that and bring with you any medication you need and advise the course that for example you may be asthmatic. You would be surprised the amount of people that have asthma that do not bring their inhaler with them! You will probably be asked if you have any medical conditions prior to joining in any case.

Arrive in plenty of time and get to know your team mates as you will be working closely with them for the next 2-4 weeks. Once the course starts you will have very long days ahead, not a great deal of sleep and it can start to fray tempers so try and avoid that if you can. Be punctual in fact if you are asked to assemble at 06.30 then plan to be there and ready by 06.15. If you are instructed to do something by the team leader or trainer then do it without question. There is little point in arguing about a task when it still has to be done. I expected ex military people to excel at this but on my course they were the ones that were more reluctant to be cooperative than the civy counterparts.

Above all have fun but also maintain a professional attitude to the tasks set and you will get the most out of the course. If you do not undeRstand something, ask the trainer. That is what he is there for to assist your learning and his experience and expertise is what you have paid for. DO not go in with a pre conceived idea of your strengths as you may be surprised what you find you are good at. I thought my strength would naturally be Surveillance but not so good at unarmed combat but found that the latter came naturally to me, more so than I expected. A good trainer will tell you where he sees your strengths and weaknesses are during the course. Take that advice and work with it.

Applying for your licence

Once you have done your course and received your certificate from the awarding body, fill in your sia licence application as instructed in black ink and print. Make sure all details are correct. If you have lived abroad or are currently living overseas, make sure you have a police record check completed for each country you have lived. You can never supply too much information but omissions can lead to delays and rejections leading to frustration for all concerned. It will not be quick with the minimum processing time being six weeks but in practise a lot longer and sometimes up to six months, so be patient. At the end of it you will be a proud owner of a CPO licence and legally ready to work.

If you find any difficulty with your application, emailing the SIA proves to be the most effective as the phone lines are busy and you may find you are on hold for a considerable amount of time. Try to keep composure even if being delayed as your case worker will be more compliant to your needs.

Finding work

Probably the biggest challenge facing newly licensed CPO’s. Hopefully you have already been networking (yes asking questions on this site is part of that networking) and now attention turns to writing your CV. This is the fiRst impression an employer has about you so you need to make it count.

I have recruited quite a few people over the years and reading CV's unfortunately is often a hurried affair when there are many applicants. You were probably thinking that a snazzy design would catch someone's eye which it does, but it also overshadows the actual content (which is the important part) of the CV. After all if it is too much "look at me" then it comes across more as desperate, rather than confident of your own abilities.

Normally rule of thumb is trying to keep it down to two pages with key skills and experience and qualifications first. Try and use a typeface that is easy on the eye. You have to remember there will be many CV's to sift through and even the slightest reason to reduce the pile down to a more manageable size will be used. Spell check everything twice as there is little excuse for bad spelling with a word processor package. It doesn't have to be a literary masterpiece but good grammar is a requisite. Do not include your home address on your CV; there are some companies I have heard that will reject a CV for that alone.

Just keep it simple and clear with a consistent format. Use a bit of design to brighten it up but make sure that it does subtly. I actually prefer word documents rather than PDF's as I can check the properties to see editing time and even what computer it was created on. Sometimes this gives an insight into the person not on the CV.

Something I do (although this is dependant on the type of work I am going for) is to include a photo of myself in the document. You will be amazed how the psychological impact of "humanising" your CV can increase your chances of selection. Seeing a face will actually draw you to that CV compared with a mountain of white A4 with plain type and template borders.

Avoid at all costs the cover page with fancy border and just your name and Curriculum Vitae (there is no need to put CV or Curriculum Vitae on the document as it is obvious what it is to the reader). It is just another page to turn and if you can’t be concise on the first page it may reflect that you may not be concise in the job. Also that border you thought was "unique" I have seen at least 20 times before! Colours are good but remember many printers are monochrome or they may be photocopied. Colours often do not translate well in black and white and end up "muddying" the content.

Don't lie, you will be found out, maybe not in CV selection but certainly by the time an interview takes place. I would take a person on that may not be everything I am looking for but is honest; if they are lying they will be shown the door. I can normally spot one within the first minute of meeting and one of the reasons I get the job of selecting people in the companies I have worked for.

Contact details should be correct and professional. If you have to use a hotmail account please try to avoid addresses like dj_mickey@hotmail.com or dragonslayer@hotmail.com as you are applying for a professional post. Addresses like that do not look professional and again can show a flippant disregard to etiquette. If you can, get a personal domain name email address with just a simple fiRst name and initial account. They are less likely to be blocked by corporate spam blockers as well.

Some companies use electronic scanning of word documents to pick out keywords. I have heard people using white text and putting these keywords in even if it is not relevant to your experience but is to the job you are applying for. It will fool the selection process but if found out will amount to cheating and I would question the persons integrity even if I may admire their cunning! Also if they get printed out on non white paper stock they show up!

Lastly, your experience gained in each job. Keep it brief; bullet points are good as you can quickly see relevant experience even in an unrelated job. Stress responsibilities rather than the obvious duties the job would entail and don't flower up a responsibility like Catering Coordinator when in actual fact you were the one that got everyone their coffees!

Now you have done all that it is time to network like you never have before, all that means is talking to people in the industry and getting known. It could well be through this site, networking tools like facebook.com or once on your first job, the team members there. If you open yourself up to any possibility then you will be surprised how connections are made. Some of mine have come from the most random of events, so always be receptive to a situation.

morrigan

As an alternative Morrigan Solutions can accomodate any and all of your training needs from meds to CET . Courses are very cost effective and we even tailor to individual needs if practical.

Pm me for more info or mail me at marcus@morrigansolutions.org

Longmoor

Bushey

I have pasted in a few comments made by people who have attended our last CP course. They are from a diverse background so I hope they help you in making a choice. 2 of the 3 quotes below are from CP World members, if you want there details to PM them and get comments give us a call and I will let you have them. If you want to give us a call to chat through your needs, please feel free.

020 750 4712 or visit Longmoor Group - Home


The Longmoor Course is outstanding. The training is second to none, plus it is set in relaxed and enjoyable surroundings (the food is brill also!!). The medical training is top notch and will take you well above first aid at work standards. All elements of the course were well covered. The tactical firearms phase was professional and relevant. Having done Police firearms, I wasn't sure what to expect with a private company but the ex-RMP guys know their stuff. Some of the team who had never touched a weapon easily caught up with some of us ex-services (even with 4 days training). All was done safely! The Longmoor Guys have a lot of good plans for next courses (e.g. extra qualifications etc) and are really helpful with regards to referrals, advice, etc. Well worth a look!!!

Sean, serving UK Police Officer – April 2008

I thought your CP course was very good, the instructors took there time and gave me all the help I needed. The methods they used to teach the various sylabus was really good, the practical help I was given was also very good and clear and I thought everything that I was taught was the right way to do things. The venue in which we stayed was fantastic, no distractions, quite, and the host was very good. Although, driving is not part of the SIA’s requirements I think that the 2 days of driving was very helpful, and explained a safer way of driving. The weapons training and the CQC was not only very helpful, as I had never used any type of firearms before, but it was made very enjoyable. All in all I was very happy with the course and will be attending your advanced firearms and driving course in the future.

Patrick, builder and doorman – April 2008

The first impression of the company was from the outset very good, all pre course information was sent in plenty of time and there were no ambiguities. On arrival it was evident that the course was being run by professionals. The level of instruction was outstanding and all instructors were quite obviously very experienced with their given field. The first aid week was brilliant and Paul was outstanding. The icing on the cake though has to be the amazing range package in Slovenia, having spent 23 years in the army I have never experience ranges like them and the speed at which you advance in your personal skills was fantastic. Many thanks

Del, WO2 British Army – April 2008

morrigan

Thanks for your interest Bushey will get that info to you within the next 24 hrs.

David Meido

Bushey,

We don't want to get left out of the party, so here are some quotes from our students!

We are based in London, and have a course starting in June. We try to keep the course fees as affordable as possible for the people who aren't able to get resettlement support, so our basic fee is £1,495.00 + VAT (excluding accommodation), but we offer 10% discount to Close Protection World members, and 20% if you bring a mate (that's 20% each, so course fee of £1,195.00 + VAT).

Here are the quotes, PM me if you would like more information.

Regards,

David Meido

150-hour sia CPO Course – Student Feedback


Luke M.
My very first impression of Meido was of the tutors and how professional they looked. The opening speech of welcome was particularly striking, and not only put me at ease but inspired confidence. The outlined course contents were clear and concise, and covered all aspects of working in a top-class Close Protection team. I found the tutors very helpful, and willing to answer any questions or provide help if needed……Today is the end of the first week training. It seems as if has lasted five years rather than seven days. It has been intense, with a lot of information to be learnt under pressure. …The biggest difference between this course and my original CP training in 2000 is that Meido Consultants is an operational company, whereas the previous training company were purely trainers. It is the operational experience of the Meido instructors that makes the difference.

Joe P. (1)
The training room was spacious and well presented. We were introduced to the trainers after the course admin was completed by helpful and friendly office staff. …On the first day we had a question and answer session with the students being put in the role of a team being asked by a client to evaluate his existing protection team. This was particularly interesting because it allowed us to view the situation from a different perspective. I personally found it informative and a refreshing new approach to normal training methods. The class was constantly engaged with the trainer, who actively encouraged debate between himself and the other students in the class.

Kirk F.
I have learned a lot I the first week, and can’t wait to see what is in store for us next week. I like the methods of teaching as there is a lot of hands-on stuff and not all classroom work……The feedback from the instructors was structured, and spot on. I like to think that as a team we took the feedback on board and used it to deliver a better operation. The course was not what I expected, it is a lot more in-depth than I thought, and I feel that it has given me the skill to join any team in the world and carry out the job in a professional manner.

Everton J.
I have received tremendous support from my tutors, and through the good relationships we have built in the team. I have found the course enlightening, stimulating and character-building, and the physical aspects of it challenging.
I look forward to applying all that I have learnt in future employment

Fergal K.
I enjoyed this side of the course, getting out of the classroom and using actual drills that we will be used in the future. It is a very steep learning curve, but very informative. ….The Surveillance Team was then contacted by Team Leader to change from surveillance to Security Advanced Party. This exercise showed how difficult it is to conduct surveillance on an established team, and the importance of back up RV points. I have learned an enormous amount this first week, it is extremely intense but very fulfilling.

Joe P. (2)
On the 19th we were given the orders to plan for a two day operation in London. We worked on the project all day, and as team leader I assigned the team their information gathering duties around London, and then we put together the power-point briefing for the operation. The first briefing was given and then dissected by the course instructors. This was done in a constructive and helpful manner, and we then continued to work on the briefing until late. I was happy that the instructors stayed with us for that, and we presented the briefing again on Saturday morning. The first day was a mixture of great scenarios, taking the Principal around different areas in London, and with a Surveillance team capturing it on camera. Camden Market especially added a whole new dimension to the operation due to the large crowds. The day then continued with more foot drills in another location which was a completely different scenario type. Again the training staff were excellent in the drills and feedback we received. The second day was again a great scenario, covering the Principal at a football match at the Emirates Stadium. The instructors were expert both in their tutoring and in the debriefing at the end of the exercise….I have thoroughly enjoyed the course and the instructors are very professional and helpful at al times.

Darren V.
I have achieved much more than I expected. The programme was very in-depth, planning and briefing skills were taught using power-point, which I had not used before but which I am not at a satisfactory level. I feel confident I could be part of a new or established team, and I am confident in my CP skills.

Simon G.
Threat Assessment, risk assessments route planning, country info, securing/booking of hotels, car hire were all part of the experience as we planned our missions. A good 2 weeks, I am going away happy with my new knowledge and skills.