Instructing Qualification - civilian

covert munkey

Hello there,

I asked this question a while ago but didnt get a confirmed answer.

I was wondering which civ instructing Qual is required to teach within an sia approved CP training establishment?

'Hippy' - you mentioned in a previous thread you where a 'qualified Instructor'.

What is the title of this course?

I have down some research and found a City and guilds Learning Diploma 7302.

Is this qual ideal or not required?

cheers

CM

hippy

To instruct (adults) you will require 2 quals. City & Guilds 7302 and also City & Guilds 1886.. You will then need to show 'sector compentancy' in the area you wish to instruct in...
To prove this you need to produce evidence to a stuffed shirt from City & Guilds that you have the experience, knowledge and certificated paperwork that gives you the knowledge to teach.

co19

Its a City and Guilds 7303 now, although the 7302 still stands till 2010. This is a delivery of learning certificate. To deliver Close Protection lessons you will have to show core competencies and evidence of prior learning to an accreditation body ie Edexcel/Bucks New University. Futhermore you should also get a City and Guilds 1886, this qualifies you in the eyes of an awarding body to teach conflict management. Both courses should qualify for enhanced learning credits if you are ex UK Military.

Hope this answers your question

CPO445

Just one simple point, as co19 has pointed out you should also get the 1886, but it is not a requirement to have that qualification to teach on CP courses, it just means that you could not teach the conflict management part of the course

hippy

To be honest, without the 1886, you will struggle to find employment as a trainer... Companies want people who can teach more than one course and as CM is a part of nearly every sia licence criteria the ability to take that part is most sought after..

And its often the best part of a course!!!

CPO445

Quite agree with you hippy but trying to get the facts straight here. You do not need both of these qualifications to teach on the course ( other than the CF bit ) , but yes if you have them then you will certainly stand a better chance of work.
Thought I should make this clear as there may be people who cannot afford the time or money to do both and your initial information will possibly not help in their efforts

covert munkey

Excellent guys,

Thanks for your information and advice.

I'm planning on attending the First Aid at Work Instructors course in the near future.

I currently have written evidence of 'instructing' which i know you require as a pre-requisite before being loaded onto this course.

I've heard you receive your City and guilds 7302 also from this course which makes sense.

Are they now altering the course to reflect the new 7303 City and Guilds Qual?

Cheers

CM

hippy

Fair enough CPO.. They aren't cheap courses in all honesty but they are both very worthwhile (I understand they are each the equivalent of an A level).
You are correct, you only need 7302, or new fangled 7303 (whats with all this change.. Next people will be telling me we have a Labour Govt!!!) to teach the bulk of the course, as long as you can also prove sector competancy... Which in its self is fairly amusing! Or was when I did mine in the very early days of CP licencing...
However as I said, most companies are after staff who can teach several subjects, so first aid, conflict management etc etc are all sort after by the companies...

I think the worst subject I ever taught was CCTV for the sia licence.... It was the most dull, dreary subject matter you could imagine (apologies to any cctv operators). I like to teach using humour... How can you make the data protection act and the human rights act humourous???

CPO445

Hippy
I understand your sentments fully lol.

Disco3

I did C&G 7303 back in the summer. It's a good course and will definately open other doors for you when looking to go into a training role. Word of advise on the First Aid Instructors qualification. This is only worth anything if you a good medical background and have a very good understanding of the course material. Without this you are not going to get work teaching first aid for any reputable company.