Door staff wearing high vis jackets

[gasman]

Read following article from bbc BBC NEWS | England | Derbyshire | Bouncers to wear glowing jackets

What is the feeling towards this, are the police making doorman and ladies open targets for revelers that hold grudges against certain venues/staff, or is this intervention by the Derby police a good one, I can understand the point that door persons could be identified easier amongst scruffs, but the police are hoping its another visual deterant to the drinking problems on the streets.

[alexiniraq]

Why on Earth should Doormen/Ladies wear a HiVis vest?? They would be very good on a very Foggy night. But wearing them could also lead to them becoming a Target for any Drunken Scrote wanting to make a point. I don't think it would deter drinking problems. It does'nt work for the Police why would it doormen???

[rescueme]

I know that when there is a scale up, it is so much easier to see collegues when we are hi vis'd up. Yeah it's a pain in the arse but when I go into a Public Order situation, it is so much easier to find my colleagues and make sure I get to them to help them out.

I was once at a job where one of the lads went into a crowd without his hi vis on, and whilst it went off OK there was no way we could really keep an eye on him, because he mingled in with the public around him.

If derbysihire want doorstaff to wear hi vis for easy identification and safety when in public order jobs I am all for it.

[robbokevin]

I have to be honest and say i'm not to sure which way i go with this subject.

I think wearing the vest's have their pro's and con's to it, Yes it's good to wear them in packed pubs and clubs, but they will als make us the target for the over indulged drinkers.

Up in the North east we have to wear Lumi Arm bands that have our sia cards inside them.
They do help in identifying the crew from the croud, but they also tend to have the odd cocky git pulling at them and asking stupid questions.

it might come down to what area and venue in the UK Door staff work as to wether the vest's are appropriate or not.

[Lietuvis]

its a good and bad idea at the same time...
In eastern Europe ALL security Company's unite and all of their officers on the streets wear high-vis jackets so drivers think that theres police squad and they keep low speeds.. This is used mainly at the start of school and used in public / residential areas...

But never saw that staff in clubs or similar places cause this would endanger security..
I would suggest wear hi-vis outside.. take it off inside and try to avoid wearing it inside.....

[endurojay]

I'm new to the Job but i can sort of see the Pro's and Con's to the HiVis jackets. Where i work we just have the HiVis arm bands to hold our badge which is fairly easy to see and identifies yourself and colleges.

In the Printworks, Manchester theres a few of the doormen that i see (when im out :-p) that wear the High Vis jacdkets. On the other hand, who is going to provide the jackets? Are the police and pubwatch like what is being trialled in Derbyshire? And like what was mentioned before it might draw attention to you to overly intoxicated persons that might want to give you a dig or abuse?

Just my thoughts....

Jason.

[K9medic]

Where I work in the Northeast, we wear dress shirts, trousers and ties our badges are still clipped on a cord not a high-vis arm band, most of the customers wear T shirts making identification easer. I am defiantly not in favour of wearing a high-vis jacket; it gets hot enough in the club without adding another layer of clothing. I sometimes think that Paramedics get targeted by drunken idiots who mistake the yellow high-vis police jackets.

[mickworldwide]

I can see the point behind it for command and control purposes but not really inside a club. The wearing of high vis jackets can work at chucking out time and on the front door.
1 helps the doormen see each other
2 helps the police to identify the door staff and assist where necessary in an emergency
3 lets members of the public easily identify the door staff when they need assistance (this can be double edged sword)

As I said I have never seen Jackets indoors but have used Hi Vis for event security tasks in the past to good effect. Also the light weight bib types for the indoor staff at events.
Cant say in my experience it has increased or decreased the public order problems but it does assist C&C immeasurably.

[zatoichi]

Locally all the door staff now wear high Vis waist coats, with sia licences on a see through pocket. I was told it makes it clear on cctv who is who, its harder for the punters to claim that they were attacked by joe public, most piss%ed people can not tell who is who and it saves alot of time.

Personally i think it is all too much health & safety these days. What next hard hats.

[ProjeKt]

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Originally Posted by robbokevin I have to be honest and say i'm not to sure which way i go with this subject. I think wearing the vest's have their pro's and con's to it, Yes it's good to wear them in packed pubs and clubs, but they will als make us the target for the over indulged drinkers. Up in the North east we have to wear Lumi Arm bands that have our SIA cards inside them. They do help in identifying the crew from the croud, but they also tend to have the odd cocky git pulling at them and asking stupid questions. it might come down to what area and venue in the UK Door staff work as to wether the vest's are appropriate or not.

We have those armbands too. Same stupid git too?? Hmmm.

Also wouldn't the hi-vis jackets cause some confusion for those too drunk or stupid to realise the difference between a copper and a doorman?

Agree with those above regarding pros and cons, Good for identifying/marking colleagues. Definitely.