"Minded to Refuse"

[Kirby]

I've read a previous thread regarding this subject and I myself also have this problem.

4 Months ago now me and my ex-girlfriend had a bit of an altercation which in turn also resulted in me getting a caution for Common Assault.

My ex-girlfriend gave a statement to the police BUT stated she did not want to press charges, just that she wanted them to talk to me.

I accepted the caution, thinking the lesser of 2 evils is to just get a slap on the wrist and not go to court.

The INSPECTOR that cautioned me said it would NOT show on my CRB and that a caution is NOT a criminal record. Also the arresting officer and a different inspector also said that a caution is NOT a criminal record.

Since then I've made a complaint to the police and currently it is at the complaints standard area. The sergeant dealing with the complaint gave me a copy of my caution and said that there is a GREY area regarding how the record of my caution is kept.
It does NOT say anything about criminal record, all it says is "a record will be kept of this caution"

Any help in the matter of getting this issue resolved would be greatly appreciated.

[CP5276]

You are correct in saying that you do not have a criminal record. However, you do have a caution, which will show up on CRB checks e.tc.
Did you submit your DNA/ Finger prints?
A caution for an offence of violent characher will make it extremely difficult to join the police / security services. You will also experience difficulties when trying to obtain a Visa should you want to go and work in the States.

The record will be kept on the Police national computer.

[Kirby]

Yes I did submit my DNA and fingerprints, BUT - the local police where I live automatically fingerprint and take DNA from anyone that is arrested, regardless of whether they will be cautioned, charged or released. Total crap I know.


The violent character part is rather bad to be honest but I do understand what your saying.
The proper caution was Common Assault (Battery) which is the LESSER offence.
Im not a violent person never have been and never will be, the only reason I got cautioned for it is to get out of the police station.
Even the my ex-girlfriend couldn't believe I got cautioned because she stated she did not want anything to happen.

I would have rather accepted the caution (which i did) than risk going to prison for 6 months and not see my son.

[Cbev]

The Police probably pushed for the caution as it would count as a clear up for them.
If you had rejected the caution now doubt the matter wouldnt have gone to court.
All Police forces will consider applicants who have a criminal conviction depending on the offence, a caution is not a criminal conviction.
Keep chasing the Police compliants over this matter don't let it go away.

[Kirby]

Oh I intend to.
THe person who did the sia course is my friends dad, and he's helping me out a lot more than what he would anyone else. Even he says its wrong.
But after reading the other "minded to refuse" thread im just wondering how he got the decision overturned.
All I wanted to do was make a "fresh start" for myself, and i've wanted to go into the security industry for a long time, but the time and money has stopped me from persuing that until now.

[tapmaster]

it is unfortunate my fellow warrior that this has happened. it seems to be a trend in uk and usa to take such drastic actions against people for minor domestic disputes. I personally feel that once the law gets involved in your personal affairs it takes a long time if ever to get them over turned. In the usa this would prevent you from joining the police, the military or even joining your local gun club.

Best wishes to you mate and hope you get it worked out.

Tapmaster

[Kirby]

Thanks, I just hope i've got enough weight in my mitigation to be able to get it sorted.