Britains Hardest Doorman 2008 - The winner

[FATBOB]

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Originally Posted by annie Proved i think that there are some utter idiots out there who have so little respect for the industry that they had little thought for what this event would do to anyone else. To how it would simply back up the already beligured perception that joe public has of doormen, and to simply make those of us within the industry who make this our careeer, with good ethics and a wish for an altogether cleaner and better image simply shake our heads in wonder at the shere idiocy of such a pointless event. And no doubt the winner will now become the target for every drunken yob who wants to take a crack at 'Britain's Hardest doorman'.....bet his colleagues just love working with him now!!!! Had it simply been what fatbob claimed, an evening of boxing, then so be it, but the shere fact he felt the need to name it 'Britains hardest doorman' is where my grief is over the whole thing. It has brought shame on an industry desperate to clean itself up and be professional.........I hope your proud of what you have achieved FATBOB i really do

Shame?, far more things to feel shameful about in the security game then off duty doorman boxing!

I am very proud of what was acheived that night -

[FATBOB]

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Originally Posted by steevorct Very true Annie, is it going to stop trouble when the affored doorman says "by the way I'm Britains hardest doorman" I think not, you will get every halfwit in the surrounding areas and beyond wanting to prove something.

Yes perhaps you're right - I'll suggest he tries "Do you know who I am?" that always impresses people.....

[FATBOB]

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Originally Posted by Marian So it was boxing comp. I thought it was supposed to be MMA??? So anyway, what has boxing to do with being hard??? But seriuosly, "lovely" picture, exactly the kind of cheap sensation that media want, once again "brawls over brains" image will overshadow all the door staff, no comment...

So ill informed, so clueless. MMA was never mentioned.

All very lower brain, where as your job requires what? MENSA accreditation and weekly disertations towards your doctorate ..........

[FATBOB]

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Originally Posted by bonejas I laughed at the celebrity mentions - Big Brother contestants etc, real class!

I am sure you are very classy but not very bright - Look up the word 'ubiquitous' then look up irony........

[rupert]

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Originally Posted by FATBOB Skill, control, restraint - all traits of boxing, all traits of a good doorman. You have so much to learn....

Sorry you don't agree but I think the majority on here are of the same opinion. "You have so much to learn"......my life is a continual learning curve.

Nobody is doubting the qualities it takes to be a sucessful DS; many of us on the forum, myself included have stood on club doors and done/do the job, I owned a company employing DS and worked the doors myself.

But the marketing and publicity of this event is intolerable to those of us who consider ourselves to be hard working, well trained and experianced professionals in the security field. An industry that is hugely missunderstood my the public precisely because of the past impresstion they have had of us. We ask for better understanding, for better rates of pay, better working conditions and an apreciation of our professionalism, and then an event like this comes along marketed to the public (the very people who pay our wages) portraying a blood thursty gung-ho hard man image!!!!

Nobody is doubting the skills and discipline of boxers per-se; but this was not just a boxing tournament.

I'm afraid FATBOB that it is you who has "so much to learn" if you think such displays do any of us a favour.

By all means persue your endeavour to find the nations hardest door man, but I'm pretty confident nobody on CPW wants anything to do with it or to even hear/read about it. Take that as part of your learning curve.

[FATBOB]

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Originally Posted by lildev666 It does not really matter particularly who won the bout/fight. The facts, which have been already pointed out and highlighted are: - Why an earth did it go ahead in the first place, and why was it highlighted that SIA badged door supervisors were taking part in the event. There was never any need for the industry to be mentioned in the first place. There could have been a boxing match, and proceeds going to a charitable cause. Instead it has caused such an uproar, probably bringing more attention to it than a charity match would have, thus making a bigger lining of pockets for the organisers.

There was no reason for it not to go ahead..

[FATBOB]

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Originally Posted by rupert I think it may be a worthwhile acivity if a petition or letter of complaint was sent on behalf of our members on this matter to the SIA, they are culpable of not acting on this issue; given their remit set out by the government, their knowledge of the event and the admission of licensed DS taking part (aren't all DS licensed now?!). Although, who says the SIA wants to "really" clean up the industry? The govt want us to stop smoking and driving cars, but they are happy to cream our taxes on these! I'd by more than happy to stick my name to such a petition.

A petition... FFS

[rupert]

Sorry you don't agree but I think the majority on here are of the same opinion. "You have so much to learn"......my life is a continual learning curve.

Nobody is doubting the qualities it takes to be a sucessful DS; many of us on the forum, myself included have stood on club doors and done/do the job, I owned a company employing DS and worked the doors myself.

But the marketing and publicity of this event is intolerable to those of us who consider ourselves to be hard working, well trained and experianced professionals in the security field. An industry that is hugely missunderstood my the public precisely because of the past impresstion they have had of us. We ask for better understanding, for better rates of pay, better working conditions and an apreciation of our professionalism, and then an event like this comes along marketed to the public (the very people who pay our wages) portraying a blood thursty gung-ho hard man image!!!!

Nobody is doubting the skills and discipline of boxers per-se; but this was not just a boxing tournament.

I'm afraid FATBOB that it is you who has "so much to learn" if you think such displays do any of us a favour.

By all means persue your endeavour to find the nations hardest door man, but I'm pretty confident nobody on CPW wants anything to do with it or to even hear/read about it. Take that as part of your learning curve.

[bonejas]

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Originally Posted by FATBOB I am sure you are very classy but not very bright - Look up the word 'ubiquitous' then look up irony........

There you go FATBOB (see below).

Honestly though, you are loving this aren't you. You got a public pasting on the forum when you presented the idea and now you are back for more. You must be having a chuckle.

Ubiquitous
Being or seeming to be everywhere at the same time; omnipresent.

Irony

1. 1. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
   2. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
   3. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.
   4. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: "Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" (Richard Kain).
   5. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity.
2. 1. Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs: "Hyde noted the irony of Ireland's copying the nation she most hated" (Richard Kain).
   2. An occurrence, result, or circumstance notable for such incongruity.
3. Dramatic irony.
4. Socratic irony.

[FATBOB]

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Originally Posted by rupert