A.p.r Handcuff Course

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co19

Police have strict guidelines on handcuffing, police can only use plasticuffs under certain circumstances/specialist units and these should be replaced by kwikcuffs at the earliest opportunity. These are Home Office guidelines.

I always feel a little uneasy that members of the security industry wish to use plasticuffs, you have to be very certain of your powers and course of action required, and can lead to prosecutions against you if injury is caused by the use of plasticuffs.

Its probably a good course, just giving a point of view. Not wishing to offend

littlewoman

The course includes all the legal stuff about when you can use handcuffs and techniques about how to restrain people and apply the cuffs. These are lockable cuffs with two separate loops which are probably different from the ones you use. So far there have been no injuries reported from these type of cuffs.
When you have to restrain a coked up idiot for 5-20 minutes until the police arrived with numerous other drunk and drugged up people trying to intervene, its a lot safer for all concerned to use cuffs than pin him to the ground.

co19

I take it the local police have no problems with it? I just have personal reservations about it, and it only takes the first injury to occur or the first unlawful detention of someone to test the waters. I personally have been to court a number of times and had to explain reasons for handcuffing.

Just a thought good luck with the course.

hippy

It is a good course, run by a good instructor... And yes it has ACPO approval

co19

I am sure it has good instruction, good luck with the course

md75

No disrespect to any of the instructors or the course content but as co19 pointed out you could find yourself in court for assault and unlawful detention, not to mention human rights act offences in criminal and/or civil court.

I had a colleague who made a lawful arrest and had the suspect allege torture, assault and unlawful detention, all with the help with a friendly solicitor of course!

I would not like to see anyone put into a position similar to that, especially without legal support paid for.

As an ex Met police officer saftey instructor there would have to be very special circumstances before i even considered utilising plasti-cuffs or alternatives.

co19

md75, we are singing from the same song sheet, I am ex Met myself BH,LM,AMIP,(TSG,DPG Long term attachments/strapping) and SO19.

co19

Would you believe it we know each other, small world

littlewoman

Legal support is paid for, its comes with the insurance that comes with the course. We can equally find ourselves being prosecuted for injuries, unlawful arrest, unlawful imprisonment etc. if we detain people without using handcuffs. Perhaps the police would prefer it if we just ejected drug dealers and brawling drunks into the street and called them to deal with it.

The Door Supervision industry is trying to move more to dealing with problems by detaining criminals and calling the police rather than just simply throwing the problem out of the door and letting someone else deal with it.

door supervisors get no training in restraining people from the standard training, and the training on 'reasonable force' is roughly "the force you use has to be reasonable" that's it! So people are far less likely to get into problems with the law if they do a course like this that covers what we can and can't do and how to restrain someone properly.