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Old 06-03-2008, 11:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree with Sh4dow an unbiased view, dont know why there needs to be gender segregation within the insudtry. If you are capable of doing the task in hand, it should be regardless of gender.

Hence dont know why there needs to be a seperate female perspective part to the forum.
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Old 03-10-2008, 07:30 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I am in agreement with the upper body strength, however I do feel as a female that if a situation was going to be difficult and Im having to stand there and think about because it could possibly be dangerous then I shouldnt bloody well be doing the job. Common sense is a greater part of the job and I have to say lookin at the standard of some, not all of both ex and serving military and also Police there does seem to be a distinct lack of common sense. I feel Im more than qualified to say this. Those serving in the forces now are having to face extreme dangers that at my time of service was focused on NI, and in the case of the Police, knives and drugs are more prevelant.There is a part of me that envies them. I feel there should be more done to help them face the realities of civvie street and prepare them for working in the corporate field if they are wishing to work in this area.
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I've worked with many female CPOs in the forces and a lot were head and shoulders above the blokes in all aspects, including fitness and strength.

CP is 99% planning and prevention and 1 % reaction to attack.

How often, honestly, have blokes had to battle it out physically? And if good, rapid techniques (fast aggressive action) is employed, it doesn't necessarily matter about strength, unless you're arm wrestling.

There's big (6ft) strong lads putting women down for the lack of strength but there's always someone bigger and stronger than you! Where do you draw the line?

The key is to be a good all rounder, first aid, planning, languages, driving, apearance, attitude.

I don't give any advantage to women on Tac Med courses. They all muck in and carry / drag with the best of them.

There'll always be exceptions to the rule though.

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I had issues in my combat training as I was paired with a male that couldn't hit women! Had to change partner as in the field a male might not think twice about hitting a women. Yes we should be treated equally if we want to do the same job
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Had exactly the same issue ceejay with one of guys on my course who really had an issue with it, funnily enough he was the one who smacked me in the face and bust my nose during an excercise accidentally, poor guy almost died of shame but it was quite funny
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Good points cj & annie... When I was instructing I had a guy who couldn't, just couldn't bring himself to chin a lady (or female should I say as some don't appear to be ladies)... It took all my do to get him so he would...
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In one way is nice to know some men have been brought up with good old fashion principals... Rare breed these days
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I'm a firm believer that if i hit a bloke in anger then i'd expect to get one back, don't do all this PC nonsense myself
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True... It's amasing when U see in clubs a woman hitting a bloke and he just stands there!
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Do the trainers make allowances for women? I hope they don't, female BG's are trained to the same exacting standard as the men, but I for one as a female BG and surveillance operative with over 25 years experience know the majority of females do not have the same upper body strengh as men.
As bodyguards it is not our job to fight, but to body cover and remove the VIP.
So what do you all think?
Sounds like you make a good point, expressing the importance of recognizing a situation BEFORE it becomes a deadly threat, and taking the necessary actions to prevent an undesirable outcome and maintaining the safety of your client(s), which is far more important longterm.

Best wishes with your continued professional endeavors.
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