FAAW Course Recomendations?

Paymaster

Although I passed a team medic course courtesy of HM Forces, my new civ employer has decided I attend a FAAW course to gain a HSE certificate for HR.

Am not one to miss an opportunity, can any one recomend a decent 3-4 day FAAW Course.

johnashburn

Hi there, yes contact ER24 they are based in Sheffeild, South Yorkshire but I know they present courses all over, their number is 0844 8005975

TacMedic1

Try Red Cross in Braddan, St John in Ramsey, both do FAAW courses.

Scab

Ugh, St John... Why TacMedic, why? BRC? Marginally better...

dpattison

I did mine with Mines Rescue they have been one of my employers trainers for about 5years now and are very good.

TacMedic1

My suggestion was based on the fact that these TPs are on the same Island as Paymaster.

An HSE FAAW course is, theoretically, the same where ever you go so the TP shouldn't matter. As with every form of training and education you will find a wide range of delivery styles and quality but at least the VAS do ensure and provide a level of professionalism and consistency .

The is nothing wrong with BRC or St John. The old held beliefs in their skills and training, or lack of, are now out of date. They now include training up to Ambulance Technician level and make good use of the Paramedics, Nurses, and Doctors who volunteer. Unfortunately the same cannot be said of St Andrews.

Scab

Theoretically the same is not the same in practice though... The general standard of SJA training I have encountered is abysmal and they are still teaching things such as no one is allowed to use an ana/epipen except medical professionals. They do not teach the realities of unconsciousness; one of those critically being every single casualty a student ever encounters in practice will be in the neat supine position. Its very very pink and fluffy training. And few, so very few ever get failed, for a number of very interesting reasons...

Incidently, you are the first person of considerable medical background I've encountered in a long time to say theres nothing wrong with two of the major three...

Fair dues on them being accessable to him though, I had not thought of that.

TacMedic1

Anyone trained or directed in the correct use can assist with the use of these devices or can administer if the patient is incapable of doing so themselves.

This is a common and widespread failing of training as this is what was taught to the trainers and they do not think outside of the standard framework that they have been given. This holds true for some advanced courses as well.
I was at a BRC class last night where the instructors had the victims in plenty of weird and wonderful positions involving toilets, chairs, tables, ladders, and other things so there are some who are introducing some reality to the training and assessments.
This is the reality of the majority of training these days, spoon feeding information and handholding through assessments.

All EMS systems and VAS have their flaws but things are improving and they are nearer to acceptable/satisfactory than they have been in 50 years.

Scab

Preaching to the converted on some of those points and I am happily enlightened on others! My general opinion however will not change anytime soon.

h20

Paymaster

As from 1st Oct 2009 the FAAW course is now a three days covers a three day period and is basic as it comes in covering the core subjects and at times you will need to bit your lip as most would agree,

If you wanted an honest answer you are not going to gain much from one company to another as Scab mentioned with regards on TP's, just take a course in close proximity to your location would be you best best dont look to much into whom thinks whom is best it is as I said magga basic.

H20