Union Jack ban defied by armed police

[Miccytaker]

its not "OUR" country no more its been systimatically handed over to the floods of non british that now share this soil. Close the doors and take the Australian view if you don't like it then F*** off back to whence you came and take your sponging tribe with you

[escondido]

Í´m not British, but that sort of thing would make me wonder about my society if I wasn´t allowed fly my national flag. Feck!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[reccymech2502]

Well i really do not know what to say, But i now live in the Philippines with my wife and little head case called my daughter, and besides joining the Engineers it has been the best move i ever made. I feel more British there than i ever did back in blighty. And except to visit, the chances of me going back are slim.
As the dolphins said in the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy before the world ended, Good bye and thanks for all the fish!

[annie]

Have no intention of staying in the UK once all the girls are finished school and A levels, and have naffed off to Uni. Definitley be selling up and leaving.

[Murf]

I Echo the sentiments of all above it really comes to something when we are forced to embrace other cultures allow them their place and freedoms whilst hiding our own nations flag England is or should i say was the glue to half the world but now we have to appologise for even considering our own identity if scottish welsh or irish your national identity is a proud thing something to be celebrated at home or abroad we English roll out the red carpet and join in with all but mention April 23rd and the rest of the union goes apeshit (and dont even get me started on foriegn nationals)
ITS TIME TO RECLAIM THE FLAG OF ST GEORGE FROM SKIN HEADS,FOOTBALL HOOLIGANS AND RACISTS TWATS AND REMIND EACH OTHER AND THE WORLD WHAT ENGALND AND THE UNION STAND FOR FREEDOM OF ACTION AND WORD BUT NOT TO THE POINT WE ARE NOW AT WHERE WE HAVE TO IGNORE OUR OWN CULTURE TO ALLOW OTHERS---------------WHEN IN ROME!!!!!!!!!!!-------------WHY CAN WE NOT EXPECT THAT SIMPLE MARK OF RESPECT WHO EVER YOU ARE WHAT EVER YOUR REASON FOR BEING HERE ITS OUR COUNTRY BECOME PART OF IT NOT CHANGE IT TO THAT WHICH YOU LEFT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Rant over!!!!!

[a51541476]

ALCON:

This is ridiculous!

The Union Flag is a symbol of British national identity and should be flown or prominently displayed at all HMG buildings/facilities, and should, where appropriate, be worn as part of official uniforms.

The Flag of Saint George's Cross is the traditional symbol of England and should be displayed with pride by all true Englishmen and Englishwomen - true means born in England, or born elsewhere but has freely chosen to live in England and productively contribute!

Why is it OK for a Scotsman to display the Flag of Saint Andrew's Cross, or for a Welshman to display the Dragon of Wales, but racist for an Englishman to display the Flag of Saint George's Cross? The Flag of Saint George belongs to England (and has so belonged for centuries), skinheads and BNP neo-fascists be damned!

I live in Canada and fly the Maple Leaf with pride, but with equal pride I also fly the Union Flag and the Flag of Saint George - the flags of the land of my birth.

Those living in England who are offended by flags and symbols of British and English nationhood should go live somewhere else!

Regards,

Dave (born an Englishman, but living in the Great White North)

[Walks99]

On the subject of flags and flying them, has anyone thought is annoying that when on Ops, you can't fly The George Cross due to the good old Geneva Convention!?

Just a thought!

Walks

[a51541476]

Walks99:

On ops, it is the British Army (not the English Army) that is deployed. The British Army is the Army of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not just England. Therefore, the proper flag to be flown on ops is the Union Flag not the Flag of Saint George.

A subtle, but important distinction:

- Union Flag = UK = England & Wales plus Scotland and Northern Ireland
- Saint George's Flag = England

Scotsmen, Welshmen and Ulstermen in the British Army probably would not be happy to fly or serve under Saint George's Flag. However, we all can identify with the Union Flag.

As a practical matter, the Flag of Saint George looks too much like the flag of the Red Cross (reversed colours of the flag of Switzerland), which, as you point out, is reserved for medical use by the Geneva Conventions. Using the Red Cross for non-medical facilities/purposes is a breach of the Conventions, so the revered Flag of Saint George must stay home during ops.

Regards,

Dave

[Walks99]

Quote:

Originally Posted by a51541476 Walks99: On ops, it is the British Army (not the English Army) that is deployed. The British Army is the Army of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not just England. Therefore, the proper flag to be flown on ops is the Union Flag not the Flag of Saint George. A subtle, but important distinction: - Union Flag = UK = England & Wales plus Scotland and Northern Ireland - Saint George's Flag = England Scotsmen, Welshmen and Ulstermen in the British Army probably would not be happy to fly or serve under Saint George's Flag. However, we all can identify with the Union Flag. As a practical matter, the Flag of Saint George looks too much like the flag of the Red Cross (reversed colours of the flag of Switzerland), which, as you point out, is reserved for medical use by the Geneva Conventions. Using the Red Cross for non-medical facilities/purposes is a breach of the Conventions, so the revered Flag of Saint George must stay home during ops. Regards, Dave

Dave, 100% understand all that and I am fully aware of the reasons regarding the red cross etc when I wrote my post, plese don't think I didn't.

My point is that the Scots, Welsh and the Irish are very particular about flying their individual flag on an individual unit basis. Example - A Scotish Infantry Reg (Can' remember which) had the flag of St Andrew on their Snatch (Landrover that is!). The Scotish and Welsh guys were able to fly their own flags (Lion Rampant, Red Dragon etc...) in and around thier accomodation, the English weren't and we were asked to put up Union Flags.

I fully understand why but my point is........

It always seems that the English get the shit end of the stick when it comes to national identity. It's stolen, hacked to death and used in the most mindless and racist ways, it really fecks me off!

Walks

[Kelv]

It seems to me that this should have been put to bed straight away by the senior officers involved. If they had some balls about them this would never have been an issue in the first place.

They should get a grip and concentrate on the more important things like doing thier job and not worrying about thier next promotion!

Now where's my Union Jack lapel badge?