Should the UK police be armed with Taser

[co19]

In my eyes it should be issued nationally as kenny who i used to work with says, its a good thing and an exellent peice of kit. Even if it issued to one car per police division.

I won't discuss air marshalls or their ammunition on open forum.

[hippy]

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Originally Posted by co19 In my eyes it should be issued nationally as kenny who i used to work with says, its a good thing and an exellent peice of kit. Even if it issued to one car per police division. I won't discuss air marshalls or their ammunition on open forum.

I think this suggestion by co19 is a good level of equipping the police with the taser... I dont think Id like to ee every officer carry one, but I believe it needs to be more availablw than it is...

As for not discussing Air Marshalls and their ammo on a forum... Its out in the ether already..

[dazzer15]

Here is something I got from NASDU (as i am doggy person) As you can see tazer is classified right at the bottom of the table not sure I agree with this would much prefer to be cs`sed than hit with a tazer
ACPO POLICY

Following the disappointment of S.I.A. licensing NASDU is now turning its attention to the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) whose working group in consideration of an injury have classified the dog as follows: -

• Ballistic Weapon (Firearm)
• Dog – General Purpose Dog
• Baton Round
• Baton
• C S Gas
• Tazer

As can be seen the dog is classified one below a gun and because of this NASDU will be looking to ACPO to hopefully provide a policy on security dogs similar to their existing Keyholding and Alarm Response Policy which exists to regulate the systems side of the industry.

[morriente]

This is a bit of a sticky subject as I think that a lot of cops would hand in thier warrant cards if they had to be armed. As for having Taser I think it would be good for say your dedicated van crew to be trained and have immediate access to Taser when backing up unarmed beat officers in violent situations. As for every cop having one ??? I for one have seen a female officer have her baton taken off her...luckily the guy didnt want to do her damage and just ran away with it, but to think if they were to take a taser!!!! And yes the ARV unless it was right on top of the scene would take to long to deploy.

[morriente]

I would also agree with CO19 with regards to the baton Gun / Launcher not being great, the best way to use it would be like a baseball bat because it is nicely weighted for swinging.......imo

[zatoichi]

I can see taser rolled out to all other officers within five years, the same media hype was in the papers over 15 years ago when we first got asp batons and cs spray, now no one really cares that we have these items they are part of the uniform as much as anything else. Taser will be the same in ten years time, no one will blink an eye seeing it on the officers belt.

[snapper036]

[quote=FACSGC;2978]whats the score with frangible ammunition i have found a supply done a bit of research and it turns out that it is section 1 ammo - which is cool would like to test some of that - i have also heard that air marshalls have frangible ammuntion in their sidearms as it allows the subject to be arrested, prosecuted and jailed -

i think you have been mislead on what frangible ammo actually does.

[co19]

Frangible ammunition can Kill, I have trained with it numerous times and has "Kennyjulie" from this site.

[kennyjulie1]

Frangible ammo is basically designed to break up upon impact,particularly if it hits a solid surface.This will in theory prevent richochets.Unlike the common jacketed round these are made from composites of hybrid materials. Once it strikes a person it will break into smaller pieces dumping its energy and hopefully remaining inside the bandit and thus preventing over penetration.They are also called ADVANCED ENERGY TRANSFER (AET) ROUNDS. THEY CAN STILL KILL!

[thenuts2008]

in my opinion this would be a worthwhile piece of kit, it will reduce injury to officers who wont have to get as close to the aggressive person, and innocent people who are in the wrong place and the wrong time. Even if it is not needed it is still there as a visible deterant.