sorcerer

Following the recent thread and useful advice by Littlewoman regarding delays in sia Licence Applications I have detailed my own recent correspondence.


My correspondence below is with Mr Simon Burns MP and the Minister responsible for the sia , Vernon Coaker.

I think it is essential that some sort of pressure group or independent monitor is now set up where advice or media exposure of the sia's incompetence and delays can be exposed and assistance or advice given to individual SIA License applicants with regards to legal action against the sia for loss of earnings etc.

Sorcerer


Dear Simon,

Thank you for your letter dated 7th January 2008 with regards to my complaint about the Security Industry Authority.

As yet I have not received my sia Door Supervision License, but after many more telephone calls they finally did return my personal documents. Since deciding to apply for my SIA License I have joined a number of professional security web sites and I think it would be safe to say that absolutely every member of any organisation involved with security is just appalled by the distinct lack of service, attitude and incompetence of this governments security regulator.

The sia literature is full of mistakes and inaccuracy's and it is now just impossible to make contact by telephone or even get a reply at all by e-mail. I have all but given up and in any case I now don't really know if I wish to be regulated and governed by an authority so appalling in their handling and processing of simple , straight forward license applications.

I have not heard from Vernon Coaker so I am assuming he has not heard from the sia regarding my concerns. No surprise really as that pretty much sums up this incompetent , disastrous , dangerous and criminal Labour Government.

I would like to add, that when I did my Door Supervision Training in June 2007 , there were a number of migrants on the same course. We all exchanged contact details , each and everyone of the migrants is now happily working the doors.

The very reason I decided to apply for this training and sia License was so I could work extra nights and save to possibly emigrate to Australia. I , like the vast majority of other decent British people in this country are leaving in droves because this Labour Government has all but destroyed Great Britain.

The street are riddled with crime and violence, we are to afraid to say anything good or positive about Britain or being British without fear of being labeled racist , there is a certain 'air of disharmony' throughout this country now and I anticipate it will only be a matter of time before this Government causes the biggest race riots in our history.

I think you know me from past and I can assure you I have never ever been racist or even thought racist thoughts. But now, and I'm not sorry to say it , I cannot wait to leave this country to the low life drug dealing, violent , lazy , parasitic scum who now rule the waves.

If possible please could you chase up the ever incompetent and lazy Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State and Crime, remind him of my complaint but more importantly , remind him of the daily murders, muggings and *censored**censored**censored**censored*s he is also , personally responsible for.

If I am around for the next general election, I know where my vote is going.


Once again , thank you for your time.


Stephen ******* RN BA (Hons)


reply:

Dear Mr ********,

Thank you for your email.

I have looked into this and have chased this matter up again with the Minister. I understand that a draft letter being prepared and that it will be sent out late next week or early the week after.

I am also going to be tabling a Parliamentary Written Question asking why there has been such a delay and when I receive a response, I shall, of course, contact you again.

With best wishes, Simon Burns

Simon Burns MP
Member of Parliament for West Chelmsford
burnss@parliament.uk


Dear Simon Burns MP,

Thank you again for your reply and help with this matter. I have now sought legal advice from Trading Standards and a solicitor and I will be issuing a County Court Judgement against the sia within the next few days for loss of earnings. I will let you know the outcome.

Stephen ********

copy: Vernon Coaker MP

Dear Simon Burns MP,

Thank you again for your reply and help with this matter. I have now sought legal advice from Trading Standards and a solicitor and I will be issuing a County Court Judgement against the SIA within the next few days for loss of earnings. I will let you know the outcome.

Stephen ********

copy: Vernon Coaker MP

alexiniraq

Sorcerer,

I have just had my Licence granted after waiting 7 months. Mind you there had been a Faux par at the C&G, even though I had received my Level III Certificate in CP they had no record of me on their database. Thankfully that has been resolved and my licence was granted today (Friday the 13th)

bonejas

Excellent post. Good work!

wullie reilly

i have been granted my licence after waiting 14 months they fucked me about i told my mp and guess what its on its way good old mp lol the sia are a load of poo


wullie

bonejas

That has to be a record doesn't it - 14 MONTHS!!!!

simar

Just checked the status of my application, wooohooo its showing as "received" now the last time I checked the sia website it was showing 9 weeks average process time, just checked the site and its no longer giving a process time



It was the same on the DS course I was on, out of the 11 students on the course 6 were foreign. Could this be why security staff wages are so low

Lietuvis

.. actually its not foreigners fault , its employers ho are using them... Why should they pay 10£ for British when he can pay 5£ to Russian or whatever .. and get other 5£ into his pocket?
This is happening world-wide,and you won't change that,people became greedy
of course there are good employers,ho pay same salary and are not getting rid of professional stuff only because they can hire someone for less and get his Ferrari paid-off early...



P.S.
whats the hassle about foreigners?
Are they doing bad job or..?
I hear lot of complaints here in Ireland about them as well..

simar

Description
Status
Status As of Date
Validate Done 22/06/2008 Correspondence - Outbound Done 22/06/2008
We have found that your Door Supervision application was incomplete.
Your application form has been checked, and has been returned as it is incomplete. You will receive a letter telling you why within 5 to 10 working days.
If you have not received your returned form after 10 days has passed, please email us at info@the-sia.org.uk.


Waited 2 weeks bu**er all recieved through the post so I emailed them on the 4th of July, here's the reply I received on the 9th of July:


Dear Mr ******,

Thank you for your email.

I can confirm that your application was incomplete and will be returned to you very shortly (please see letter attached).

Please accept my apology for the delay.

Yours sincerely

George
sia Contact Team


My docs arrived today with the reason for rejection being: You have not sent the correct combination or number of documents.

Hm.... I sent my driving licence, birth certificate and my most recent payslip showing the required details, these items were sent via my future employers sia admin.


So is this more incompetence from the sia? or have i misunderstood the docs required?


Looks like another month or so added before I get my licence

CallumWW

Hi All...

Does anyone know SIA's current state with regards getting licenses sorted? How long is it currently taking?

I'm shitting a brick to be honest as i need it rather quickly.. I shall have it in the post at 7am monday morning ( fingers crossed ).

Any feedback/replies Very much appreciated.


Callum

littlewoman