kodris

Mate may I say that this one of the few things in life that can still get my hackles right up!

I'm a very calm and and easy going individual, but by Jesus if I find someone under cutting out there on the Circuit I may just consider taking up "wet work".

I won't speak for others but I have spent many years of my life striving to be the very best I can be as an operater in many security related fields, and of late am finding it very difficult to make those skills pay properly.

There are many different reasons for this but one most definitly is newbys being used to keep costs down.

Here is some advice- do your research and find out what going rates are
- There is room for negotiation out there but only to a degree
- If in doubt get on here and ask the Guys they will be happy to advise you as will I

Remember if the rate get pushed down we all suffer and that includes you new guys in a number of years when were all trying to operate in a deflated market.

Thank you for your ears

ATB
Kodris P.S. Shakespeare thanks for your comments mate, just how I see it.

kodris

Just a quick after thought, the courses I refer to in SA are excellent courses and are of the highest standard run by some of the very best people in the world.

I merely wanted to point out that these courses alone will not prepare an individual with no prior experience for hostile environment operational roles.

So to any Nemisis or Ronin guys on here sorry if that came across the wrong way I have the utmost respect for your training methods and reputation and would advise anyone to consider your training for many different scenarios of work.

Kind Regards

Kodris

JayLiver

Hi Kodris

Great post mate.

Ok Don't get me wrong I understand it's gonna be hard to get into this business maybe alot harder than some. I am fully commited to working hard for it. But the fact is I pay alot of money for the license I receive it then cannot get work. To me that's kinda pointless I mean I could try another way around it and join the Army or Police but from the sounds of it. It doesn't make alot of difference.

Thanks everyone for their posts I appreciate you all taking time to help me out

Regards
Jay

kodris

hi JAy,

Look mate I'll be honest with you its difficult to make it in this industry at the best of times, and many of the main clients are used to using ex-mill guys.

(I know I'll get harrassed for that statement because alot of mid easterns don't anymore, ok I know but this is an explanation for Jay)

Jay don't get down hearted mate. Look at it this way the sia course is not the B-all and end all of CP its merely a starting point, you now start you apprenticeship mate, think of a doctor, they go to college for christ knows how long, get thier doctorate then become an "intern"! thats because they haved book learned there profession and practised on cadavers but the real training starts on the Job beside a Doctor with a lot of experence a "resident".

So you have your qualification now you need your internship mate, just trawl the internet for ads even Gumtree, you will find companies that do DS and CP work its just case of getting as much experience as possible and if you stick at it apply what you have learned pick up the rest on the Job slowly I have no doubt you'll get there.

Some of the other topics mentioned earlier in this thread were a little off what your original question stated and not aimed at you personally.

You can get work in the UK and I would start personally with who ever trained you, they may not be able to offer work directly but if there worth there salt they should be able to help you get started networking and reconfigure your CV for the Industry.

I hope this helps Jay anything else you need to Know PM me and I'll be happy to help Mate

Kind Regards

Kodris

kodris

Sorry Jay went way ahead there your still looking for a trainer, have a look at the Meido review thread I have posted on there also,

Regards mate

Carl Dowd

We have lost the plot on this thread somewhere guys...Jay as I have already said to you and as others are advising you, speak to Meido Training...

Good luck...

JayLiver

Hey everyone another question maybe another stupid one but ah well. From what most of you have said in posts all over the forum a covering letter with your CV can do wonders, I never before did a covering letter with a CV. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong does anybody have a example of a covering letter for someone trying to get work in the security industry which they are willing to share with me??

Regards
Jay

kodris

Jay,

A cover Letter is "post applied for specific" in other words the Idea with your CV is to as succinctly as possible list all your details and qualifications in an easy to read manner, so as to be as user friendly to a prospective employer as you can.

Then accompany that CV with a letter saying where you heard about the position or company or just explaining why you are applying to them for a position.

EG: Dear Mr CP Ltd,

I am writing to you in regards to "ABC" with a view to discussing further or securing an interview with CP Ltd.

Mr "Joe Blogs" of xyz Ltd has recommended I contact you and I would appreciate the opportunity to discuss my prospects with you or a member of CP Ltd's HR team.

I have enclosed a current copy of my CV and references and look forward to hearing from you soon.

Please do not hesitate to contact me should you require any further information.

Yours sincerely

Jay


Basically mate it is case specific you are formally introducing your self and where you heard about this person and his company, you should also include all relevant information.

Hope this helps

Kodris

saintjon

To be honest there are lots of companies that are just doing it for the money and some causes are just to get you through your the sia requirement if you are new into the whole business then you need to look at a cause that has good instruction for a newy to the business and will take time to teach you well and look into the background of the instructors and there success rate. It will be harder to be honest to find a training company that suites what you need than you suiting there requirements there are good training companies out there just look hard and well. Also you need to get yourself on a firearms course abroad as you will need firearms training thats a MUST and more important the safety around weapons and the use of.

littlewoman

It has just been brought to my attention that comments I made earlier on in this thread about a ex para-chef have been perceived to refer to someone other than I was actually talking about. I have only just found out that someone who is currently working on this site is an ex para-chef, I was not referring to this person and would not for one minute think he might be at all neglectful in his duties. I believe this person is known to a number of people on this site and has a good and well-deserved reputation.

The person I was referring to was only on the site for a few days. I had been wrongly informed that he was a chef.

I offer my utmost and sincere apology to my current colleague for any problems this may have caused him.